ceiling. here's my point, obama's going to turn up the heat as it gets closer to the deadline. as dana and i have been talking about, we both think the can's going to be kicking down the road anyway and as obama pushes other agenda items in the state of the union, the blame game just doesn't work outside of the capitol. i think people don't understand why congress cannot do a basic job of deciding on what to spend and what to cut. >> they're not watching that minutia is what you're saying. >> right. this is not -- they're not looking at decimal points and the broad theme is dysfunction and gridlock and therefore, i think, it's just both houses. >> we've seen a very confident president during the recent weeks, we saw the state of the union showing that confidence, that swagger as many have said. not pressing hard to deal with the sequester right now that he thinks maybe that republicans will get the blame here. is that his thought, you think? >> yeah, he's going to let them sweat it out for a l